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Best home rig for Qwen3.8 Flash-Next

Current model180B total · 6B active22 measured resultsfastest plain decode: 182 tok/s model info ↗

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Real, measured generation speeds for Qwen3.8 Flash-Next on home hardware, fastest first. Different quants/engines aren't directly comparable.

BuildQuantEnginetok/sCostSource
EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engineIQ3_S + model draft head, all experts on the RTX Pro 6000Strata engine 0.1.39, RTX Pro 6000205.263 ⚡research.strata2signal.com ↗
Dual RTX 5070 Ti on Ryzen 9 9900X (capy-flash maintainer rig)GSQ-RCO (64 GB edition)capy-flash v0.7.0, 2 GPUs, agentic decode182github.com ↗
RTX 5090 workstation: Qwen3.8 Flash-Next IQ3_S at 159.2 tok/s on Strata (expert offload)IQ3_S (~55 GB), experts offloaded to RAM, speculation helperStrata159.2akitaonrails.github.io ↗
Dual RTX 5070 Ti on Ryzen 9 9900X (capy-flash maintainer rig)NVFP4capy-flash v0.6.0, 2 GPUs, agentic decode155github.com ↗
Dual RTX 5080 on EPYC 7F52 (capy-flash user report)NVFP4capy-flash v0.7.2, --expert-cpu-threads 15, agentic decode144.4github.com ↗
Dual RTX 5080 on EPYC 7F52 (capy-flash user report)NVFP4capy-flash v0.7.2 (CUDA 13.4), agentic decode141.3github.com ↗
Dual Tesla V100 32 GB on EPYC 7402 (bnk engine)IQ3_Sbnk v0.3.1, decode at 4K context121github.com ↗
Dual Tesla V100 32 GB on EPYC 7402 (bnk engine)FP4-Localbnk v0.3.1, decode at 4K context114github.com ↗
EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engineIQ3_S, all experts on the RTX Pro 6000, no draft headllama.cpp (3cf03257), RTX Pro 6000102.889 ⚡research.strata2signal.com ↗
Strix Halo + Radeon AI Pro R9700 over OCuLink: Qwen3.8 Flash-Next at ~102 tok/s (custom engine)custom int4 experts / 6-bit trunkstrixpro (MTP depth 3 + prompt lookup)102 ⚡vuln.dev ↗
Dual RTX PRO 4000 Blackwell on Threadripper PRO 5975WXGSQ-RCO (64 GB edition)capy-flash v0.7.1, prose decode (low end of 100-114)100github.com ↗
EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engineIQ3_S + draft head, 8,144 of 24,576 experts on cardStrata engine 0.1.39, RTX 3090 Ti98.291 ⚡research.strata2signal.com ↗
Strix Halo + Radeon AI Pro R9700 over OCuLink: Qwen3.8 Flash-Next at ~102 tok/s (custom engine)custom int4 experts / 6-bit trunkstrixpro, ~100K context82vuln.dev ↗
Ryzen 9 9950X3D + RTX 5090 + 128 GB DDR5: four big MoEs with experts offloaded to RAM (Qwen3.8 Flash-Next 78.8 tok/s)Unsloth UD-Q5_K_XL, MTP drafting, experts offloaded to RAMStrata (296b59d)78.8 ⚡dev.to ↗
EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engineIQ3_S, 32K prompt, all on the RTX Pro 6000llama.cpp (3cf03257), RTX Pro 600076.337research.strata2signal.com ↗
Strix Halo + Radeon AI Pro R9700 over OCuLink: Qwen3.8 Flash-Next at ~102 tok/s (custom engine)custom int4 experts / 6-bit trunkstrixpro, ~980K context71vuln.dev ↗
Dual Intel Arc Pro B70 (neural.download lab)IQ3neural.download runtime, TP258.56github.com ↗
Strix Halo + Radeon AI Pro R9700 over OCuLink: Qwen3.8 Flash-Next at ~102 tok/s (custom engine)GGUFllama.cpp (Strix Halo iGPU only)29-34vuln.dev ↗
DGX Spark (GB10, 128 GB): 23 models on vLLM at 128K context, Qwen3.6 35B-A3B up to 102 tok/s+ MTP (k=2)patched vLLM (qwen38-flash-dgx), 128K ctx, 1 user26.8 ⚡ctala.github.io ↗
EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engineIQ3_S, experts of 34/48 layers in system RAM, no draft headllama.cpp (b11514), RTX 3090 Ti22.657 ⚡research.strata2signal.com ↗
RTX 5070 12GB + 32 GB DDR4: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 177B at 11.5 tok/s with expert streamingUD-IQ3_XXS, experts streamed from RAM/SSDllama.cpp-based expert streaming (custom)11.5github.com ↗
RTX 5070 12GB + 32 GB DDR4: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 177B at 11.5 tok/s with expert streamingUD-IQ3_XXS, long coding prompt (4,892 tokens out)llama.cpp-based expert streaming (custom)10.15github.com ↗
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Memory math: how much VRAM / RAM does Qwen3.8 Flash-Next need?

Qwen3.8 Flash-Next has 180B parameters, about 6B active per token (source: ~180B total per the model card as summarised by strata→signal (125B main network, ~6B active per token, 51B lookup table, 4B draft head)). Weight size = parameters × bits-per-weight ÷ 8, before context (KV cache) and runtime overhead.

FormatBits/weightWeightsSmallest common memory size that holds the weights alone
Q8_08.50191.3 GB192 GB
Q6_K6.56147.7 GB192 GB
Q5_K_M5.70128.3 GB192 GB
Q4_K_M4.89110.1 GB128 GB
Q3_K_M4.0089.9 GB96 GB
Q2_K3.1671.1 GB96 GB

Bits-per-weight for GGUF quants are llama.cpp's own figures (llama.cpp quantize README). "As measured" rows apply the source's stated bits-per-weight to the parameter count; real files differ slightly because some layers stay at higher precision. Try other combinations in the VRAM calculator.

Why it can still run on smaller GPUs: it is a mixture-of-experts model, so only about 6B of its 180B parameters are used for each generated token. Runtimes such as llama.cpp (--n-cpu-moe), ExLlamaV3 or Project Maya can keep most expert weights in system RAM and only the shared layers and hot experts in VRAM. Then you need VRAM + system RAM ≥ weights, and speed is limited mainly by RAM bandwidth.

Measured on setups with less GPU memory than the Q4_K_M weights (so part of the model lived in system RAM or was streamed from disk):

FAQ

How much VRAM does Qwen3.8 Flash-Next need?

The weights are about 110.1 GB at Q4_K_M (180B params × 4.89 bits ÷ 8, before context/KV cache). Add memory for context (KV cache) and the runtime. The smallest-memory setup with a measured result here, fully in memory, is DGX Spark (GB10) (128 GB) at 26.8 tok/s.

What is the fastest measured hardware for Qwen3.8 Flash-Next?

EPYC 7532 workstation (RTX Pro 6000 + RTX 3090 Ti, 300 W caps): Qwen3.8-Flash-Next, llama.cpp vs Strata engine: 205.263 tok/s generation (Strata engine 0.1.39, RTX Pro 6000, IQ3_S + model draft head, all experts on the RTX Pro 6000), from https://research.strata2signal.com/flash-next-on-three-cards/.

Which GPUs have measured results for Qwen3.8 Flash-Next?

2x Intel Arc Pro B70, 2x RTX 5070 Ti, 2x RTX 5080, 2x RTX PRO 4000 Blackwell, 2x Tesla V100 32GB, DGX Spark (GB10), RTX 5090.

Can it run on… 2x Intel Arc Pro B70 · 2x RTX 5070 Ti · 2x RTX 5080 · 2x RTX PRO 4000 Blackwell · 2x Tesla V100 32GB · DGX Spark (GB10) · RTX 5090

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